Chasing Meeples
A lighthearted take on board games with a sprinkling of hilarity - when you listen to Chris and Angie on Chasing Meeples, expect witty banter, game discussions, quizzes, and game night stories. Perfect for gamers of all levels looking for a faith-friendly gaming conversation.
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What American president was in Zoolander. I have no clue. I'm going to, I'm going to throw one out, but it's going to be wrong.
Speaker 2:It was 2001. Yeah, it wasn't Woodrow Wilson.
Speaker 1:No, obviously I was going to say Woodrow Wilson Boy, you saved me that embarrassment, gonna save Woodrow Wilson Boy, you saved me that embarrassment. It's time for another episode of the wildly popular Chasing Meeples. And now here are your hosts. Hello everybody, this is the Chasing Meebles podcast. I am your host, Chris, and, as always, I'm with my lovely co-host.
Speaker 2:Hello, hello, it's Angie.
Speaker 1:Hey there, Meeble Chasers. I hope you are all having a fantastic day. I know I am Angie, how was your day?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a fantastic day. Nobody needs to know about my acid reflux.
Speaker 1:So do we start over.
Speaker 2:No. Oh okay, no, why not?
Speaker 1:I'll just do some editing.
Speaker 2:You don't need to do editing. I've heard stranger things in podcasts and people talking about their acid reflux. Okay, so let's get into this. Chris, let's get into this. Here's a very interesting, interesting fact that I just learned just before I started recording. My advice to everybody that does any sort of Instagram TikTok reels please listen to the music before you attach it to your video.
Speaker 1:I wasn't even going to bring this up.
Speaker 2:Why not? Why not? I created an Instagram. I was just creating some reels and I did one about the game After Us that we played and I used the music and it was something else that had a little bit of cursing in it, and I am just saying I am glad you found out so quickly so I could delete it, and only one person happened to like that reel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, All I had to do is listen to the reel for half a second and said Angie, are you sure you want?
Speaker 2:to have music. I just got it up there. I never listened to it, never did anything.
Speaker 1:See note to self Angie. Just because it's trending doesn't mean you should use it as a reel.
Speaker 2:Nope, nope.
Speaker 1:And for all you aspiring Instagram reel makers out there, take it from the experts on what not to do.
Speaker 2:There you go. We're not the experts about anything else.
Speaker 1:We're the experts about what not to do. There you go. We're not the experts about anything else.
Speaker 2:We're the experts about what not to do?
Speaker 1:Yes, Don't listen to us on rules, game rules. Don't listen to us on anything really. Yeah, just listen to us for pure entertainment yes, and speaking of pure entertainment, and it is quiz time. Oh, you know what? This is pure entertainment. It's pure entertainment for the Meeple Chasers. It is pure entertainment for me, angie, and you know who else?
Speaker 4:it's pure entertainment for Because this quiz.
Speaker 2:The subject was sent to me by one of our listeners. It was sent to me by Miss Kaylin from Vicksburg, mississippi.
Speaker 1:Hey, kaylin from Vicksburg, Mississippi. Oh, hey, Kaylin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, miss Kaylin, and that's the way she signed her email, miss Kaylin. So, miss Kaylin, Miss Kaylin from Vicksburg, mississippi, and yeah, she gave me the inspiration behind the quiz. I should say that Not completely, but we had been chatting and so she gave me the inspiration behind this quiz because I told her I did tell her what we had been playing and we are going to get to Gakpan a little bit later, so that's what inspired this.
Speaker 4:Awesome.
Speaker 2:She kind of thought the potato quiz was rather funny.
Speaker 1:Don't tell me all the meeple chasers are just going to start sending in like random.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what this is interesting? One of the suggestions I got pertains to a podcast we did a long time ago.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:It's a reference to something and I completely forgot how it came into the conversation.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I need to search, because she did not know which podcast it was from. So I literally have to go search podcasts and listen to them all over until I find what the reference pertained to.
Speaker 1:Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 2:So I felt kind of bad because when she mentioned the comment, I'm like, yeah, I briefly remember that. But okay, I'm going to be on my drives to work and stuff, I'm going to be listening to some chasing meeples.
Speaker 1:Well, there's worse things to listen to yes, there are.
Speaker 2:Are you ready?
Speaker 1:I'm ready.
Speaker 2:I'm ready.
Speaker 1:I am ready Now. This quiz is inspired by Kaylin, or did she give you it?
Speaker 2:is Well, we had this. Well, we had been. Actually, we had been going back and forth on games we had been playing.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, so we've been talking, and then I mentioned what games we had been playing, because we had been playing a lot of games during weeknights, and so she gave me the inspiration, thought, hey, you know what you should do, xyz. And so it is Quiz Zoo, ooh, quiz Zoo, ooh Quiz Zoo. So that can kind of give you an idea of what game we had recently played. So maybe you remember a little bit from this game.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm sure I do.
Speaker 2:On the cover of Ark Nova there is a picture of eight animals. Yes, there is one point for each animal that you can name.
Speaker 1:Oh what? This is coming out the gate ruthless Eight animals. Eight animals On the cover of Ark Nova All right Elephant.
Speaker 2:Elephant you got one Tiger. Tiger.
Speaker 1:Tiger Lion, lion Giraffe.
Speaker 2:No giraffe, See. Now we have to stop.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Because you got a wrong answer.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're just cutting me off.
Speaker 2:I'm cutting you off yeah, oh boy, actually it said that here in my script. We stop when you answer incorrectly.
Speaker 1:You should probably give me those rules before I answer the question. I should?
Speaker 2:I should, but you know what? I would hope that you were then trying to answer correctly anyway, no.
Speaker 1:I was because I specifically think I remember in my mind's eye a giraffe. Do you want to know what the other ones are? Not only do I want to know, I'm sure all the listeners want to know.
Speaker 2:So you said elephant, tiger and lion. Yes, there's also a bear, a crane.
Speaker 1:There was a bird. I was going gonna say something else, but there's a parrot ah see, I wouldn't said that a turtle, no, and a monkey and it was like that little, like furry monkey, I think the ones that swing yeah at the zoo I never would have gotten that. That was. I'm just happy that I got three points off of that.
Speaker 2:yep, three points, yep, all right. Next one the shape of the break token in ARK Nova is a shape of what?
Speaker 1:Well, that's easy. The shape is of one of the greatest. It's a vessel.
Speaker 2:Can you just say it? What kind of vessel is it? Or do you not know? It's a coffee cup. Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, it's one of my favorite things in life. Not a cup, but what goes in the cup?
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, and this is a multiple choice question. The next one coming up Ark Nova has 212 zoo cards. They consist of both animal cards and sponsor cards. How many of these cards are animal cards? 108, 128 of them, 168 of them, or 198 of those cards?
Speaker 1:198.
Speaker 2:No, oh, come on, the answer is 128.
Speaker 1:Oh well 120.
Speaker 2:Because then the Zoot there would only be it would have been half.
Speaker 1:Is it like half and half? What's the total? It's 212.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so all right. Now we get to one of the favorite questions how many games on BGG are titled? Just the word zoo One? This is multiple choice. Okay, one, five, 11, or 19.
Speaker 1:With zoo in the title.
Speaker 2:Just zoo, just zoo, just the word zoo 1, 5, 11, or 19?. Yes, 5. You got that correct. You got that correct. You know what? I didn't really want to count, as many games there were that had zoo in the title. It was like, well, okay, forget it, there's probably. It was way over 15.
Speaker 1:Way over 15. Way over 15. Maybe 16.
Speaker 2:Maybe, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Now we're moving off the board game.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Here we go. So what? 2016 animated movie starred a bunny cop and a Fox Connors.
Speaker 1:Fox Conn artist.
Speaker 2:Fox Conn artist.
Speaker 1:I feel like it. I feel like it's that movie we watched together, but I don't recall there being a bunny cop in it a police officer which makes me want to go towards another movie. This is how I process stuff.
Speaker 2:Don't give me that look don't overdo it, no I'm going the main characters in this were a fox and a bunny yeah, it's the okay.
Speaker 1:So then it's not the one we watched together, it's the one animated yes, it's the one that b-man lego boy likes so much, and I cannot, for the life of me, think of what it's called well, we do have a quiz about zoo, oh, well, come on now. You had to say that Zootopia.
Speaker 2:Zootopia, you're right.
Speaker 1:Never seen that movie at all, never seen.
Speaker 2:Gabe watched it. I've never watched it. I don't watch movies with you. You have watched it. Yes, you have, because I had to ask you the whole thing about the mayor and the lion in the movie, because there's a mayor that keeps all the animals in cages.
Speaker 1:Never watched that movie?
Speaker 2:Yes, you did, and they were drugging all the animals to make them go crazy.
Speaker 1:That's not the movie. That's Zootopia, that's a fan film of the movie.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:That's not the real movie.
Speaker 1:No, that is not Really. Really, gabe was watching a fan film of the movie.
Speaker 2:I thought that was the movie Gabe was actually watching B-Man Lego Boy no Fan film. That was the movie. That wasn't the movie. That was not the movie.
Speaker 1:I am pretty sure that is not the movie, pretty sure that is not the plot line of Zootopia.
Speaker 2:That the mayor was poisoning all the animals so they would go crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not the actual plot line to Zootopia.
Speaker 2:Oh, we're going to have to watch it no-transcript. And so she hopped the bus, went to the big city and that's got to be. Oh, now we got to watch Zootopia.
Speaker 1:I don't know. We're going to have to watch it.
Speaker 2:The answer to the question is still the same.
Speaker 1:The answer is still Zootopia. Yes.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, ok, I don't give you a point for that. I don't know, I had your point, that's just. No, I'm blown away, I'm blown away.
Speaker 1:I could be totally wrong.
Speaker 2:No, we have this weekend.
Speaker 1:we have to watch Sutopi you know future, Chris might be getting gas in his time machine right now to come in and just be like, yeah, okay, Angie was right Okay.
Speaker 2:But you never know. Never know, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4:Hey everybody, it's the future. Chris, the time machine's not working too well, so I have to use this radio. Anyway, yeah, angie's right. There is something that is turning animals into predatory savages through a chemical, and Angie's right about that. So we'll give her that one. However, it is not Mayor Lionheart. No, no, no, no, no. The actual antagonist is you think I'm going to tell you that? Come on, no spoilers on this one.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to it. All right, I'm looking forward to it, all right. What actor played the?
Speaker 1:title character in the 2001 movie Zoolander Ben Stiller.
Speaker 2:Yes, you got it. Oh my gosh, I was so worried that this was like before your time. No, I Well.
Speaker 1:No, not before your time but more before you started watching things other than He-Man.
Speaker 2:How old do you think I am?
Speaker 1:Zoolander is great. Well, I've seen Zoolander.
Speaker 2:Okay, good, good, good. Before my time, I don't know, before your adult movie time, something. Oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:All right, so maybe you you know, I'm not even going to go there. I'm not even going to go there. I don't know. I was going to make some age related joke, but it is just not.
Speaker 2:Well, I didn't know. I'm looking good. What if he doesn't know, because he never saw it or even so? I mean, you know skits with that so often and stuff. Yes.
Speaker 1:It's not like you're asking me like who was the main character and actor in the television show Flipper, which is more your era.
Speaker 2:Maybe more my era, but do you know I went there. What American president had a cameo in Zoolander?
Speaker 1:What American president had a cameo?
Speaker 2:in Zoolander. What American president had a cameo?
Speaker 3:in.
Speaker 2:Zoolander, zoolander.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm rustling papers. You are rustling papers. I'm sorry everybody.
Speaker 1:Makes me cringe.
Speaker 2:You know, with all these podcasts of people and the sounds that come off of him, a little crumpling of the paper is like.
Speaker 1:For me it is, I know, like the one where the two people were talking and their. This is the only time you ever their child walked right in and they're like oh yeah, hey, it's our kid. And they like talk to their kid for 20 minutes before they continue the show Anyway.
Speaker 4:All right.
Speaker 1:What American president was in Zoolander. I have no clue. I'm going to, I'm going to throw one out, but it's going to be wrong it was 2001. Yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 2:Woodrow Wilson.
Speaker 1:No, obviously I was going to say Woodrow Wilson Boy, you saved me that embarrassment, bill Clinton.
Speaker 2:Donald Trump. See, I was going to say that he's the one that's in everything.
Speaker 1:It seemed like such a gimme.
Speaker 2:All right, last question, so this you didn't ask. This is a 15 point quiz and of course, there are five bonus points. So let's see when are you at. You are at three, four, five, six, seven, what? No, this I don't, I don't, I'm not going to say that. Maybe this is before your time. What famous gorilla at the Washington Zoo in Milwaukee shared the same name as a serial killer?
Speaker 1:Samson Okay, yeah, I know, sam what's the name a serial killer, samson. Okay, yeah, I know, sam, what's the name of the serial I remember.
Speaker 2:Samson, I don't know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:What's the name of the serial killer? Yeah, son of Samson.
Speaker 2:Son of Sam. That was my first question that came to me about this was I'm thinking of Zeus, I'm thinking of Samson? Oh my God.
Speaker 1:How does Samson and son of Sam? They don't share the same name.
Speaker 2:Sam Son.
Speaker 1:Yeah, son of Sam.
Speaker 2:Literally, you're just reversing that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Son of.
Speaker 1:Sam, literally you're just reversing that, okay.
Speaker 2:We'll go with that. Yeah, samson S-A-M-S-O-N, son of Sam, s-o-n of S-A-M.
Speaker 1:That's great.
Speaker 2:You got that one, Sam.
Speaker 1:That was creative what.
Speaker 2:Are you mocking me? Are you publicly mocking me?
Speaker 1:No, not until this is published.
Speaker 2:Five, six, seven, eight.
Speaker 1:Eight points. Eight points On a max 15.
Speaker 2:And you have a five point bonus question coming up.
Speaker 1:Oh, it doesn't matter. It's not like it matters. It's not going to get me to max points.
Speaker 2:This is a good one. Now Okay. In Genesis, chapter nine, verse 12.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:This is when Noah's on the ark. Okay, it says. Then God said I'm giving you a sign of my covenant with you and all living creatures for all generations to come. What was his sign?
Speaker 1:that he was never going to flood the earth again. A rainbow.
Speaker 2:A rainbow, that's right. Ding, ding, ding, ding ding. Good job.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Angie.
Speaker 2:Good job, I like that quiz. That was right, ding ding ding ding ding, Good job. Thank you, angie. Good job, I like that quiz. That was a good quiz. I'm sorry, I'm still stuck on. Son of Sam.
Speaker 1:That was a very good quiz topic that was suggested by Miss Kaylin.
Speaker 2:Miss Kaylin from Vicksburg.
Speaker 1:And Meeple Chasers, if you have any suggestions for quiz topics, quiz questions, you can write the whole quiz for Angie. Just please don't make it vegetable related or starch related. You can email us at chasingmeeples at yahoocom. I do not see any of the quiz questions that Angie comes up with or any of the quiz questions that you guys send in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, put attention, put attention quiz.
Speaker 1:Just put a subject line quiz and that'll be my cue not to look at that email.
Speaker 3:It's time for Jack Pan, with Angie and Chris Talking about board games you don't want to miss. From the classics to the new, every game's a ride. With Angie and Chris, you're in for a delight, laughter and joy, and sometimes a fight. Join us as we tell you what we play at night. And now it's time to start.
Speaker 2:Are you ready?
Speaker 1:You don't need to ask if I'm ready. I'm always ready to talk about the games Angie and Chris play at night Gakpan.
Speaker 2:Gakpan, gakpan.
Speaker 1:Angie mentioned earlier that we've been getting a lot of after dinner games in, and part of that is because, well, I'm still unemployed. I've gotten way more rejection letters than I can count and it's a little frustrating. However, do have a lead on a potential job. Got an on-site interview coming up soon, so, meeple Chasers, wish me luck. By the time this is published, I'll probably have already had that interview. Next episode you will find out. Cliffhanger for you All right.
Speaker 2:So, that being said, Well, here, Chris, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1:Yes, Angie.
Speaker 2:So if you get a job in the next week and there was a lot of things you could do with this time off, can you say that you have accomplished those things?
Speaker 1:No, okay. Why do you say that?
Speaker 2:I'm just looking around here at the podcast desk.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I okay If we're going to go there and do that, so awesome therapy that we do while the meeple chasers listen. I had really good intentions with organizing this room. I bought contractor garbage bags to take out some of the big things that I don't even want to look at anymore, just get rid of it. But there's like there's like a leg massager thing that I bought and that whole thing could fit in one contractor bag. So Facebook marketplace. I don't even know if I want to put it there. So, so, yeah, so there's that, but anyway, you know what?
Speaker 2:It's perfect for another episode of board games and banter, where I bring out useless things that we have never used, that we bought and never returned to the store.
Speaker 1:You haven't done one of those in a very long time on our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2:The lighting was really bad, but I thought that was rather entertaining.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2:I did have people follow along about my journey into finding good acrylic fake nails. I think I did show everybody that we had a plunger that we bought and never returned to the store. Here's the ironic thing, chris we're using it now. We are using that plunger.
Speaker 1:Yes, so, to get back on to your original question did I accomplish everything that I set out to or things that I could have done while I was off? If I get a job, no, I feel like there's more stuff I could have done, but did I do what matters? Yes, gabe is loving having his dad home.
Speaker 2:He is.
Speaker 1:And I'm getting some well-needed dad and Gabe time.
Speaker 2:Yes, you are. This morning, when you were on the phone with your phone interview, he's downstairs looking for you and I was so afraid he was going to start to do that stairway knock. He does when he wants our attention. When we're up here, you hear this little knock on the wall of our stairs and I'm like, no, no, no, daddy's on the phone. He'll be down in a little while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that kid so much. Did we get enough podcasts or games played?
Speaker 2:No, absolutely not. That's really kind of what I.
Speaker 1:I know that's what you meant. We should have been recording episode after episode after episode after episode.
Speaker 2:You know, here's kind of the crazy thing I was off of work during the pandemic and you were not. And I know I think I've said this before, but there's this time that sometimes you have that you could start a hobby, Because we really didn't start. A lot of people started podcasts during the pandemic. We didn't.
Speaker 1:We waited until like two years after.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we waited until after. So I did afterwards think about, you know, I had this time. What did I do with my time? Why did I not, you know, do something useful, learn to knit or crafts and stuff? I've had time in my life where, suddenly, you know, the time's gone by and it was like, you know, I could have really done something, not even beneficial, but just maybe learned a skill learned a skill yeah, it's how to sew my own pants, and you know.
Speaker 2:And bringing it back, Chris, bringing it back. We have been playing games at night.
Speaker 1:So let's start. Well, obviously, we had a quiz about a zoo, and one of the questions was Ark Nova. Ark Nova is just. It is so good. It is a game that will always be remembered in my mind. I will never forget our first playthrough of that game.
Speaker 2:I think it took us four hours to get through the first play. But you know that didn't discourage us. I would think sometimes that length of a game might discourage us, and it did not.
Speaker 1:If I'm ever playing it, yeah, I mean I don't think so, because we played it again the very next day. Yeah, we went on a run where we played that game for a while and I mean we brought it with us, we brought it to the con, the Phoenix con, I enjoy, like the engine building, yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 2:You know, I just really enjoy that game. I'm not really sure what it is about the game and obviously it is the actions. It's the way you select the actions. I think that really set it apart. It's so interesting the way you have those five cards. You know it's your association, your animals, your buildings cards. So when you decide, you lay them out in front of you. When you decide which one you want to play, it's all dependent on what order. So you have the stronger abilities with those cards, depending if they're further in the order, and that's really interesting. You play it and then you swing it back to the beginning and there are instances in there where you can flip them over and make them even stronger. So that game mechanic, I think, is not shared in any other game that I know of. All right. So let's talk about the next game that we played, which is something I referred to earlier in my oopsie on Instagram After Us. I know we have talked about After Us before, but for anybody that has not heard that or has not played the game, it is a fun, fun game with Vincent Dutre.
Speaker 2:Art After Us takes place after a sort of apocalyptic scene. We're not really sure. There's no backstory with it, there's just no people, there's just apes, and these apes are going to use leftover human technology to build a civilization for themselves. They have a starting tribe. They're going to create a colony with different forms of apes. There is one that is not an ape, it is a monkey and you use now.
Speaker 2:This also has a very interesting way. It's got. It's a deck builder. But when you build your deck, you're laying out your tribe in front of you, which is four cards, and you are trying to close cells. And as you close your cells, you're going to go along your rows and you get whatever resources are inside the closed cells. So the strategy in this game is essentially how you lay your cards together, because each card obviously has different portions of the cells and if you lay them together, you're going to get different resource abilities and after your round, going through and getting your resources if you have enough they're like fruit and, I think, wheat, and then you can also get some batteries at resources you get to buy yourself another ape card and that's how you're building your deck. And there's also a way of thinning your deck by rage, and I usually never use that mechanic, and I did use it this last time.
Speaker 1:Yes, so I was usually using the rage you were the rage.
Speaker 3:Since then, we played. Yes, you were.
Speaker 1:Which I did not use last time, but you were using rage when we played yes, you were which I did not use last time, but you were using it a lot I did.
Speaker 2:I used it a couple times, not a lot, but I did use it a couple times because I started to realize that I am I, for some reason I'm like cards, more cards, more cards. It always seems to be the better idea. Okay, I'm getting really, really strong cards. You know, and I know this. You know, I know this that if you have a deck with really strong cards but you can't get to them, they're really kind of pointless. So I was doing that thinning the deck, and you know what I think of the game that finally got me to really think about that or realize how valuable it is is Meek Heroes, victory, because in that game there are a couple occasions where you can thin the deck and so seeing how valuable that is to the mechanic, the battling action in there, made me really realize okay, I can use this in other games without losing something. I always use this in other games without you know losing something. I always feel like you're losing something when you thin your deck, but you're not. So that is After Us.
Speaker 1:And if you want to hear more about that game, september of 2023, angie and I put out a episode called Chasing Lorcana and our review of After Us. We go a little bit deeper into that game Well, as deep as we go into that game, but no, that game is great. I still think that mechanic, where you're putting the puzzle together and the two pieces, is super unique. I really enjoy the game and yeah, so if you want to hear more about my opinion on the game, give it a listen. And another game which I notice is not on the list that you have is Paladins of the West Kingdom.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what I think?
Speaker 1:I made this list up before we played it.
Speaker 2:Before we played it.
Speaker 1:So Paladins of the West Kingdom, awesome game, awesome game. Took a little bit to remember how to play the game, but I think once it came back to us, we were rocking and rolling and getting through it. And it just so happens to be like a lot of the podcasts that I've been listening to lately. They've been mentioning the Garfield games and it got me in the mood to want to play.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And normally my go-to game. It used to be Raiders of the North Sea and then it became Architects of the West Kingdom, but I was just really in the mood to play paladins and surprises me because it's a little bit heavier, a little bit more euro-ish than like raiders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you like that battling, almost battling element of raiders.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I just know I'm glad you chose it.
Speaker 2:I'm glad we played it again. Um, I really like the game. There is a lot like mini garfield. There's a lot of avenues to winning that game. There's a lot of different ways to win. There's so many, you know building your walls, so there's a lot of ways to win. So it's a good strategy game.
Speaker 1:I will say there's a rules controversy in the last game that we had, so Angie did take the win.
Speaker 2:Oh, angie did take the win oh. Angie did take the win Because we actually tied.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we did tie. You're right, it was 34 to 34. I got the tiebreaker, but that's you got the tiebreaker, but I technically should have had one more point.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, but I graciously See there is not a. It was not a rules Rules point no, no, no, but I see there is not. It was not a rules rules controversy?
Speaker 1:no, it's not controversy. We just played it wrong. One of us played it wrong and you didn't catch it I didn't catch it, no so because I wasn't I with paladins and like a lot of games like that.
Speaker 2:You have to concentrate on what you're doing. Yeah, I don't normally look over at your board and that's when I realized you had, because you did. You were really. I looked over at one point and your strength was so high I'm like you're cheating somehow.
Speaker 1:But I wasn't intentionally you weren't cheating Right.
Speaker 2:And then I looked over and sure enough, you had. I don't know what was it called, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:It's where you get the pots. Was it Absolve? It wasn't.
Speaker 2:Absolve. That's it. It was Absolve, absolve, yeah, and I realized that the numbers on the pots, because everything else you had to compare numbers, you had to compare strengths, and I realized Absolve didn't have that. And then I looked at the pots and they were all numbered. Duh, that must be what you compare. You know, because each one is like you compare your black to your red. Yeah, then it dawned on me and you were already when I looked at you, because you were up there.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was absolving like a madman you were. I was doing so good.
Speaker 2:And you know what you did not? I don't think you were doing it until I mentioned the bonuses, that the way that iconography was is that you get one bonus, but then you always get a bonus of getting rid of a thief card, Thief card, yeah yeah. And then it seemed to be like you're like oh, I said, well, look at the iconography, that's what it says.
Speaker 1:And then you start going yeah and rules, controversy still. Hey, did you ever look up the rule to see if I was truly playing it wrong? No, I didn't look it up, so what Angie is saying that I need to do, and I didn't either. So so in my mind I did it right and I graciously let you not give me that bonus point and I should have won that game.
Speaker 2:No, actually you did it so many times that I'm sure there were more points that you should have not gotten, Probably Because we agreed that okay, that you would stop where you were taking points for that, but we never took points away from you.
Speaker 4:Yes, sue, twice in one episode. So I'm going to spare all of you the next 10 minutes of this episode, because I literally argued with Angie for about 10 minutes about this rule. And here's the rule I should not have been able to absolve any higher than what I was on the influence track. So that is the blue track. So Angie was right. And now on to the next game.
Speaker 1:All right, so I win, technically won that game.
Speaker 2:What?
Speaker 1:Oh, this is what happens when you record a podcast.
Speaker 2:Let's just, let's just go on, just go on. We got a couple more games to hit too.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the next game that we played is a game that we actually talked about recently on our top Phil Walker Harding games episode, and that is Summer Camp. I just absolutely love this game. This game is pure. It's simple. I'm not going to go too much into it After we recorded that episode. That's why I wanted to play it.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Got me thinking about the game and it got me wanting to play it.
Speaker 2:So I like the decks. I like that there's several decks that you can use and they can mix and match, and I mean there's quite a few decks I think there's like eight different ones, yes, and those decks represent the activities that you play in the summer camp. So that's what I like. I think that's neat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that game Not going to spend too much time talking about it, but it's a good game.
Speaker 2:It's a good game.
Speaker 1:Then All right, angie, here's a question I have for you. So the other game that we got a chance to play and I believe you picked it not that it means anything, but surprisingly I didn't pick it was the Star Wars, clone Wars game, and that is a it's a pandemic system game. And we played it. He just got smashed.
Speaker 2:We did.
Speaker 1:By the villain, and I can't even remember who we were playing against. Oh, it was Grievous, general Grievous. Oh, he smoked us.
Speaker 2:He did that. He did that, he did. But you know I have did that he did. But, you know, I have no idea why I chose that game. I'm going to tell you the honest truth. It just literally popped up that I went oh, what about Clone Wars? You go, yeah, Because we don't do well with co-op games. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 2:One of us is a little bit of an alpha gamer.
Speaker 1:And that's you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, what are you talking about? You know, when we played Pandemic Legacy, you paced around the table and you were sweating. You sat there. When it was my turn, you got up from the table and you paced in front of me. You were like psychically trying to send the vibes of what you thought I should move, where I should go, and it was tense, it was frustrating and it's probably the reason why we only got to the 12th month and we never finished, because the idea of us losing would have been so extreme To think that we actually lost and we lost the entire world.
Speaker 1:It hurt, I couldn't bring myself.
Speaker 2:We didn't finish, so we don't know if we lost yeah.
Speaker 1:That doesn't mean I'm an alpha gamer.
Speaker 2:And you know, the other thing that was interesting about that game is it was the first time we destroyed anything in a game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did not like that.
Speaker 2:And you cringed.
Speaker 1:I did not like that. I wanted to just like tuck it underneath Like literally, you didn't want to watch.
Speaker 2:It's like you had to turn around and you're like do it, go ahead and do it. Yeah, the card.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The card.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, that hurts, it was wrong. It was wrong to me at that point in time in my life and I didn't like it. But I want to address this Alpha Gamer comment. I don't feel like I'm an Alpha Gamer, I feel like you are the Alpha Gamer gamer how in the world you know you're lying I was actually listening to.
Speaker 1:Um, was it the last episode? I believe the last episode of the christian board gamers podcast, and joe bragg was talking about a game that I really want to try and that's, I think, dead man. Tell no Tales yes yeah, they have the anti Angie rule, the no yeah no alpha gaming rule. No, actually. Yes, I guess I tend to quarterback sometimes when we play. However, if I were to label you, I would say you are a kingmaker. You are 100% a kingmaker. Yes, the look on your face.
Speaker 2:I do not, I would never do that you can tell. Okay, how about this, Chris? Maybe the only reason I am ever tempted to do that because I like to win games, is because you are a bad loser.
Speaker 1:And I'm a bad winner too, you are.
Speaker 2:You're so fun to play with.
Speaker 1:Well, I am fun to play with. I'm a great guy to play with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you don't lose or win by enough points, suddenly you start to pout. Well, yeah, oh, I didn't beat you by enough.
Speaker 1:I didn't just completely destroy you. I won by one point. Yeah, no, but okay, we'll just say that you, what did you just say?
Speaker 2:You're a bad winner or you consider, or a bad loser.
Speaker 1:You think about king making?
Speaker 2:The only reason I would ever consider it.
Speaker 1:I think on my, on my, on my, because you get whiny. On my BG stats app. I'm going to start making notes on the games.
Speaker 2:And you know what? Here's Chris. Our, our stats aren't that far apart. We're like literally like at 50%, but you still whine.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, but I'm going to start, I'm going to start making little notes in there when I think you, king, made.
Speaker 2:Which means you think I throw.
Speaker 1:Yep, I'm going to start because I feel like you do and it makes me feel bad that you're so selfless and you just want me not to have a bad time. So anyway, kingmaker, and it makes you so mad when I say it too, all right, Well, you aren't always right, so Only three out of four times, anyway, all right.
Speaker 1:So back to the Star Wars, clone Wars, pandemic game. I think it's a good implementation of pandemic. However, let me ask you a question. If you were to play pandemic or this, which one is, in your mind, better?
Speaker 2:I have no connection to Star Wars whatsoever.
Speaker 1:None whatsoever.
Speaker 2:None whatsoever, none whatsoever, oh boy. I mean I watched the originals. So Clone Wars. I have no idea what the Clone Wars were until we started watching that animated series.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I have no connection at all, and so I go Pandemic. I would rather play base Pandemic.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2:I mean there is more to the Clone Wars one. So game wise, there's more, I think more game to it.
Speaker 1:I'm torn, I'm really torn. I think it's good for what it is, but I think I think I don't know. It's hard to say for me, like what would I enjoy more? I think we've just played pandemic so much. I mean, we've played pandemic, we've played hot zone. You know we didn't playemic, we've played Hot Zone. You know we didn't play any of the major, like Iberia, things like that. I think it's a great system. Just in general, I think it works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a very good system, but I think for me original Pand pandemic is better than that Star Wars game. I really do. Okay, I think the Star Wars game is harder.
Speaker 2:It is Than pandemic. It is because you have a villain where you don't have that in pandemic.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know you're playing against the cards, you're playing as that, but you have a villain where you don't have that. In pandemic, yeah, you know you're playing against the cards, you're playing as that, but you have a specific villain and they're like. So there's more game to it because you have missions and stuff like that. So I mean, it's under the pandemic system, it's not a pandemic game, right, so there is more game to it. But sometimes pandemic is one of those games that you don't have to really overthink. Now, pandemic legacy you do, but you can play, I think, base pandemic pretty simply because you know what you have to do. You just have to play your character. Good, right, you know make the right moves, which you do have to in any game, but there isn't a lot of maybe moving parts to it. That makes sense.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So that was that. That was it. But there is another game we played. There is, and this is another Phil Walker Hari game. Yep, this is Super Mega Lucky Box, but it's not just a regular Super Mega Lucky Box. We also played the app, downloaded the app version, and I don't normally enjoy app versions of board games I don't know, I don't and usually like there's Wingspan and Terraforming Mars and I didn't care for those. I maybe it's like I don't want to pay money for a game that I have the tactile version of, but I like this one. I enjoy it. It's very quick, simple, which is one of the reasons why I like super mega lucky box.
Speaker 1:So yeah, to give a little bit of context of that app. So I personally like the board game apps. I enjoy the wingspan app, I enjoy the pan, or the the pandemic app when it was a thing, um, I enjoy the terrifying mars. I like apps. Let's just say that I like the board game app implementations. Um, it just gives me the ability to play a game if I got some downtime on my phone and I'm just sitting somewhere, but regardless.
Speaker 1:So angie and I were at the greater Wisconsin autism conference in Baraboo, wisconsin, and Angie was at one of her breakout sessions and I was just sitting in the hotel room with Gabe and I don't know how I knew it, but I think on Facebook somebody posted, or something, that there was an app, and I don't know if you owned it already or if I shared it right away. I shared it with Angie. I was like, oh, super, mega lucky box. So I shared it with Angie, that was it. That's as far as it went. And then later that day we're sitting in the hotel room, we're just relaxing, we got done eating and we're just we're chilling for the night and I asked did you see that app? Oh, I bought it. What? Well, let's play it, and why didn't you tell me yeah?
Speaker 1:So unfortunately it's not a two player game, so what we had to do was basically Angie would play around and then she'd hand me her phone and then I play it. It was fun to watch the other person play, to see their, their, your play style. Basically yeah, which I do think it made me a better player watching you play, because you've got more plays into this game than I do. I really enjoy it, but you've played it more. I mean, you've taken it to with you on business trips 've. Yeah, you've done a lot more playing in that game and when I, when I would, when we play the physical of the game, I basically just randomly picked cards yeah, yeah, you're more rent even more where you take the numbers off which cards where I'm more strategic about that?
Speaker 2:yeah, and so I'm watching you going the whole time. I'm like, why is he taking the five off this card?
Speaker 1:now take it off the other card yep, yep, and now I'm starting to see how you played. I saw how you played and how you pick your cards and it kind of makes my scores better now, which is good and it makes me happy, but I do think excellent app implementation. So we were sitting at home just trying to figure out what to play the other night, so I just grabbed the super mega lucky box and we played a couple rounds of super mega lucky box and it was a great time. I don't can Phil Walker Harding make a bad game.
Speaker 2:Well, he can make games that are not not as, not as great you know. Would that be a?
Speaker 1:bad game.
Speaker 2:Not necessarily.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I think Phil's, phil's bad.
Speaker 2:We're going to play what's the game called the show. My shelfie then.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like my shelfie.
Speaker 2:I liked my shelf, you, I like my shelfie.
Speaker 1:You're the one that gets.
Speaker 2:It was the scoring. It was the scoring. Was it the? You score two groups of the teal tiles, or something I said you can only score one.
Speaker 1:Yes you didn't you couldn't score both. Yep.
Speaker 2:That you're only supposed to score the biggest one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know, we asked Phil and he still has not gotten back. I don't know if he missed that podcast episode.
Speaker 1:He must've missed that episode, so he must've it must've snuck past him and his notifications, cause we know Phil's a big fan of the chasing meeples. So those are the games that we played Meeple Chasers. Let us know what you think of the game by either reaching out to us via email or whatever Socials. Yeah, so if you enjoy those games and you think I should have won Paladins of the West Kingdom, be sure to let Angie know. Well, this about wraps up another episode of the Chasing Meeples podcast and, before we end it, we just want to share our Chasing Faith segment and, angie, I do believe you want. Well, with Mother's Day coming up, I do believe you want to talk about something about Mother's Day.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll tell you how I came up with this. This is going to be a passage from one of my favorite books of the Bible, and you know my favorite woman of the Bible. You know who that is.
Speaker 1:It's Ruth.
Speaker 2:It's Ruth and I am going to be okay. Here's a little backdrop. I've been doing the kids' ministry at church and I was asked to be a support on Mother's Day, because they're expecting Mother's Day to be busy and the early service is always the busier group that had the most kids. Well, apparently the teacher pulled out, so I was asked to lead the class.
Speaker 1:Oh, very cool.
Speaker 2:So my first time leading is going to be during the busier session, with probably extra kids because more people come to church on Mother's Day.
Speaker 1:That is awesome.
Speaker 2:So I talked to Dawn about that and she had mentioned what the subject was going to be, because I asked what's your lesson for the day and she said it was Ruth and Naomi. So I thought it was kind of this sign it's going to be my first time, kind of nervous, and then the very first thing that's going to be is Ruth and Naomi, since it is my favorite story of the Bible. Wow. So in Mother's Day I am going to read from Ruth. So this is Ruth, chapter 1, and this is going to be verse 3 through 17. Then Elimelech died and Naomi was left with two sons. The two sons married Moabite women. One married a woman named Oprah and the other a woman named Ruth. But about 10 years later both Malon and Kilion died. This left Naomi alone without her two sons or her husband.
Speaker 2:Then Naomi heard in Moab that the Lord had blessed his people in Judah by giving them good crops again. So Naomi and her daughters-in-law got ready to leave Moab to return to her homeland With her two daughters-in-law. She set out from the place where she had been living and they took the road that would lead them back to Judah. But on the way Naomi said to her two daughter-in-laws go back to your mother's homes and may the Lord reward you for your kindness to your husbands and me. May the Lord bless you with the security of another marriage. Then she kissed them goodbye and they all broke down and wept. No, they said, we want to go with you to your people. But Naomi replied why should you go on with me? Can I still give birth to other sons who could grow up to be your husbands? No, my daughters return to your parents' home, for I am too old to marry again. And even if it were possible and I were to get married tonight and bear sons, then what Would you wait for them to grow up and refuse to marry someone else? No, of course not my daughters. Things are far more bitter for me than you. Course not my daughters. Things are far more bitter for me than you because the Lord himself has raised his fist against me.
Speaker 2:And again they wept together and Oprah kissed her mother-in-law goodbye, but Ruth clung tightly to Naomi. Look, naomi said to her, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people and to her gods. You should do the same. But Ruth replied don't ask me to leave you and turn back. Wherever you go, I will go. Wherever you live, I will live, your people will be my people and your God will be my God. Wherever you die, I will die and there I will be buried. May the Lord punish me severely if I allow anything but death to separate us. I love that story. The whole book of Ruth I love and I thought that was a great touching. It's not her mother, it's her mother-in-law, but I think it's a wonderful story and a tribute to mothers.
Speaker 1:And Angie. I think that story is perfect for Mother's Day. So Ruth's commitment to Naomi not only highlighted the bond between them, but it was a good example of family loyalty. And it doesn't have to be. You know, love biologically when you go, I will go. Where you stay, I will stay Just speaks volumes about her dedication and love, and I think that just embodies the spirit of Mother's Day. It's a reminder to all of us to cherish those who just nurtured us and guided us, regardless of whether they are biological mothers or not, mothers or or not. Happy Mother's Day everybody, and keep chasing those meeples done.
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